that's how medicare and medicaid is paid for. isn't it fairer where at least half of the country might see higher premiums to pay for the other half? >> what's fair about that? everyone is priced out of them. they are only basically available to a handful of people. there's nothing fair about the way the cost structure is. not to -- and to add insult to injury, the care is not going to be there for you. >> and the fact is, we have been paying and subsidizing to pay for people who do not have health insurance for years. they go to emergency rooms, and we are stuck with a very high inefficient bill. it's time to level the playing field and reduce costs in that manner. >> but here's the problem. we'll wind up with more uninsured now as people get dumped from their plans. so we have not even solved the core problem that obama care was supposed to solve. >> that has to be the last word. all right. >>> sticker shock from obama care isn't just sticking it to folks shopping for health care. it could be the grinch that killed the entire h